telecom >> In Regards to Help - Please (Mike Sutter)

by mjs2032 » Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:56:33 GMT

Patrick,

Thank you for your response by way of the news group. Unfortunately it
seems that I'm only getting through by using your email address given
on www.telecom-digest.org <http://www.telecom-digest.org/> . I did not
get the Auto-Ack so I'm guessing that my posting is just going into
the ether.

I used to post sporadically a few years back and it seems that I
remember that there was a special TO: address required. I've been
out of circulation for a while but now find myself back in the telecom
space. Tonight I resent the same post that I sent out a couple of days
ago. Again, I did not get the auto-ack. I'm using Forte Agent V1.93
as a news reader and I'm using the 'Post Follow Up Message'
as a response command. The pertinent information from the response is:

Posted to comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Senate Committee Guts VoIP Bill
From: Mike_The_Bike < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Reply-To: DaGroup

Thanks,

Mike Sutter ENP - Ctek Inc
Aka Mike_The_bike

[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I observe a couple things. For one,
when your messages reach me, they always seem to have a ton of HTML
junk on the end; at least 100-150 lines of it to be chopped away. Also,
maybe your news reading client does not know how to deal with reply
messages. Maybe your news reading client thinks it is to reply with
HTML ? In other words, your original message in ASCII text was
immediatly followed by a repeat of itself in HTML. If you could stop
doing that, I would be grateful. Try this experiment: send me a one or
two line note purely in ASCII text, using some mail client, Outlook
Express or whatever. Use my various addresses:
XXXX@XXXXX.COM (or)
XXXX@XXXXX.COM (or)
XXXX@XXXXX.COM (or)
XXXX@XXXXX.COM

You *should* get back an auto-ack for each test message. If you do
get back an auto-ack then the problem would seem to be in the news
client you are using. And your news reading/replying client should
have telecom as a moderated group, flagged to send mail to me. There
is no 'www' in front of telecom-digest, although it should not matter,
and there is no 'editor' mailbox account at the massis site which DOES
matter. Try all that and let me know. PAT]


telecom >> In Regards to Help - Please (Mike Sutter)

by John Levine » Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:48:04 GMT


> Posted to comp.dcom.telecom

How do you expect the ack-bot to send you an acknowledgement if you
give it a forged return address? It's not clairvoyant.


I guess we should feel complimented that he expects the automatic
response-bot to know how to turn the forged return address in his
message into his actual return address.

If you look at the mail logs on the MIT machine, you will doubtless
find mail to XXXX@XXXXX.COM , the forged address
that he puts on his newsgroup messages.

Some people think that putting fake return addresses in messages is
benign. They are mistaken.


R's,

John

telecom >> In Regards to Help - Please (Mike Sutter)

by News Feed » Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:18:53 GMT

My stupid. I've got that in there because I post a couple of
un-moderated groups and I'm trying to avoid becoming a "harvesting"
victim. Sorry to take up your time. Regards, Mike Sutter

PS - I don't suppose even a NAK-BOT could have gotten back to me under
these circumstances. :)

John Levine < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > noted:

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