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solidworks >> Component pattern

by Krister L » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:35:37 GMT

Is there any rules for how a component pattern is supposed to act in an
exploded view? I have two different component patterns in an assy ....for
one of them it's enough to pick the original mated part and the pattern will
follow when exploded. The other one doesn't act like that ....the pattern
will not follow. Both patterns are fasteners ...bolts, nuts and washers.

Krister L


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solidworks >> Component pattern

by Corey Scheich » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:42:28 GMT


did you have sub-assemblys selected in one and not in the other?



will
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solidworks >> Component pattern

by Krister L » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:03:21 GMT

Yepp.....found that out later....is that the limitation ? I tried with
exploding only the nuts in the same pattern and then it worked.

Krister L







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pattern
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solidworks >> Component pattern

by Corey Scheich » Sat, 31 Jan 2004 01:34:30 GMT

I don't think it is a "limitation" more of a "Not explained well" or a "Not
Labled well".

Corey







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pattern
washers.
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solidworks >> Component pattern

by Krister L » Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:13:16 GMT

I see...and it's a lot easier when You know why it's not working as expected

thanks

Krister L




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solidworks >> component pattern

by will_usher » Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:23:59 GMT

I've patterned a component in an assembly... its a pin that can slide
up and down a hole. When I move 1 pin all the others that are patterned
from that pin move as well. Is there any way to delete their relations
so that I can slide each pin individually, but still using this pattern
method (as I dont want to have to mate 500 pins to 500 holes
individually)?
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solidworks >> component pattern

by Wayne Tiffany » Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:23:11 GMT

Sounds like you want your cake and eat it too. Think about the logic of
what you are saying. The idea of a pattern is that you have one part
controlling others. Now you want to have that one part control all the
others, but not in all directions. I understand your request, but can't
think of any way to do it.

Or, is it maybe just the first pin you would want to move without all the
others moving? If so, put it in by itself, and then put in the next one to
use as the pattern seed.

WT





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solidworks >> component pattern

by will_usher » Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:08:23 GMT

'Sounds like you want your cake and eat it too'

thats when you know you really are using some good software!. Its nice
when software just seems to work. Unfirtunately you dont very often get
that feeling with Solidworks.
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solidworks >> component pattern

by SteveT » Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:31:19 GMT

Try the Right Mouse Button click & choose "dissolve pattern" Then you will
have 500 individually placed pins (not mated but they will be in the correct
positions)... unfortunately if you need all of them to stay cylindrical to
the holes but all move individually you will have to manually mate them in.

If that is the case it sounds like you should be using smart mates -- mate
one pin in the hole & the hold down the CTRL key while dragging the
cylindrical face of the pin & drop it on the next cylindrical face of the
next hole. This will copy the first pin & make a cylindrical mate to the
next hole all in one motion. Do that 500 times & now you got 500 pins that
all move up & down. if you look in the help file it will show you have to
predefine that face in a "mate reference" that way you don't have to drop
from face to face you can just drop it on the hole.

Have fun -- hope that makes it at least easier
Steve T.
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solidworks >> component pattern

by will_usher » Fri, 17 Feb 2006 02:33:37 GMT

ok thanks, I'll try that. Any ideas on how to mate two oval surfaces?
Image the pins are an extrude from an oval and the holes a cut from an
oval. I cant seem to mate them.
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solidworks >> component pattern

by TOP » Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:01:58 GMT

You can have your cake and eat it too.

1. Make two configs of a subassembly with just the pin.
2. Use planes to mate the subassembly.
3. Mate and pattern.
4. Make the movable pin a different config from the rest and set to
flexible assembly.

If this works you should be able to move one pin in the pattern.
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solidworks >> component pattern

by Wayne Tiffany » Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:29:21 GMT

Hmmm, interesting thought. Sometimes flexible subs cause issues, but worth
a try. Interesting indeed.

WT





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solidworks >> component pattern

by will_usher » Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:31:28 GMT

I made a sub assembly of the 2 pins (there are both mated in the same
position so that it appears as if you can just see one pin). I then
mated this sub assembly to the hole and patterned it. Of that sub
assembly I made 2 different configurations. I then set one to flexible
but when I move a pin the mates from the original are lost and the pin
is no longer mated to the hole... it is flexible in any direction.

Not sure if i've done this correctly though!
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solidworks >> component pattern

by Jerry Steiger » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:30:40 GMT


You'll probably have to use planes and/or sketch geometry to do your mates.
I would make my pins centered on the Front and Right planes. A sketch point
at the center of the holes can be used for the centering, with parallel or
perpendicular planes giving the alignment.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"
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solidworks >> component pattern

by Bo » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:41:03 GMT

Pins from an oval ought to be able to have a axis.

Oval Holes could have an axis at their center.

Aligning the axes is easy.

Bo
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